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No the simple solution would be if you feel you are going to be hit bring freinds. It is a freighter not a fighter. There are game mechanics to prevent this, it is called bring a fleet, or risk your ship, it's that whole risk vs reward thing.

[quote=Riot Girl]No, they keep the gankers logged off, probably easier on them and makes people less aware that there is a gank trap waiting.

Once a target jumps in, they bump the freighter to prevent it from warping or leaving, and they also shoot it with a rookie ship character so even if the pilot logs off, he will remain in space long enough for their gank characters to get in and get the kill. There's no escape once they've started bumping you, you can not get out of it. Concord will not help you, even though the bumper is effectively acting as a warp scrambler.

You shoot the freighter with the rookie ship t put it in pvp mode. Then he cannot log-off to use the 2 minutes rules to avoid the gank. He's stuck there no matter what for 15 minutes.

The why is pretty simple, if you make an alt like you do, no one will buy what you are selling, because no one really hears a coward.

What is reasonably high while still avoiding deleterious effects on the economy? It is economically untenable to allow too much wealth to move too easily with too little risk. Especially when there are already safer options available that aren't being used. Orcas, for example, have been mentioned prominently.

Furthermore, raising the EHP barrier will not be nearly as effective as you seem to believe. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14307479 As long as pilots continue to misuse the freighter class of vessels in such an egregious manner at the expense of blockade runners, industrials, and orcas.

Just to point out, a good number of these frieghters are being killed off the gates which means no sentries

"Learn how to argue properly." That's excellent-- covers a lot in a few words. Saving for future use, if you don't mind.

We are talking around one million km away from gates.

We spent 6 months telling miners exactly how to avoid being ganked, provided them with fits, tactics and even how to track us in local. Hundreds died.

These people seem to be just as daft.

you cant biomass a character with negative sec status. they are either using trial accounts and just letting the accounts lapse or turning the alts into cyno alts once they are done.

It is not a 100 percent assured kill. If you know what you're doing and are in your own corporation, there are methods of putting the freighter into warp before they are able to shoot it.

I put this together in like, a minute and I don't even fly freighters or rapiers.


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If you know how CONCORD and other game mechanics work... ganking isn't an issue. I get the impression that most of the people complaining aren't actually aware of how ganking and the game in general actually function.

It also helps if you're not AFK and afk warping around. If you're AFK, you get no points and have no ability to complain when you pop and could prevent it with due research and preperation.

You're an idiot. The major limitation to DPS output in a gank is time before CONCORD responds. Why would a gank squad ruin a perfectly clear gate to kill a webber? You now have to hold the freighter in position, get an equal number of pilots as what it took to kill the webber to pull CONCORD simultaneously, and wait 15 minutes for everyone's GCC to cool off or more pilots to show up since you probably lost some DPS you needed for the freighter.

As goons we have a dedicated jabber room, fleet, and mumble channel for this with people on standby and we still have timing problems or manpower problems at times. Most other pirates aren't coordianted enough to pull this off, they're looking for targets of opportunity and you've seriously decreased the opportunity.

The fact people still ask for it in this very thraed prove people can't read. I personally posted it at lest 3 time now ans some people pointed out it was pretty much right. Too lazy to read a thread, too lazy to not auto-pilot across a 0.5 I guess...

No problem, here to help. Also, since the profit margin is often so thin and the pirate is dependent on all the ships deliver as much DPS as possible it makes counter strategies like blackbirds or logis viable. Nothing ruins a pirates day than a freighter jumping out at 5% structure because some ******* good Samaritan. Except for maybe getting the wreck blown up before you can scoop it.